A few weeks ago I wrote a piece about the fiscal cliff for the U. S. News retirement site. I saw that the so-called "fiscal
cliff" was
on
the
horizon and thought people should know about it. But in all honesty, I figured that the fiscal cliff was kind of a manufactured crisis and that it would go the way of Y-2K after the election was decided and politicians in Washington came to their senses.
Now I'm not so sure. Perhaps I'm giving people in Washington too much credit.
The
term
"fiscal cliff" is
shorthand
for
a
series
of
federal
spending
cuts
and
tax
hikes
that
will
automatically
go
into
effect
in
January,
if
Congress
and the President don't get together and act to override
them.
The measures
originated
in
Congress
last
year
as
part
of
a
compromise
to
pass
the
Budget
Control
Act
of
2011.
The tax hikes include ending the temporary reduction in the payroll tax (which funds Social Security), ending some tax breaks for businesses, changing the alternative minimum tax and inaugurating some taxes to start paying for the Affordable Care Act. They will also affect certain tax credits for college tuition and low-income families.
The tax hikes include ending the temporary reduction in the payroll tax (which funds Social Security), ending some tax breaks for businesses, changing the alternative minimum tax and inaugurating some taxes to start paying for the Affordable Care Act. They will also affect certain tax credits for college tuition and low-income families.
At
the
same
time,
the
White
House
has
detailed
a
whole
list
of
budget
cuts
that
will
affect
over
1,000
government
programs,
including
$55
billion
in
defense
cuts
and
$11
billion
in
lower
Medicare
payments.
The
fiscal
cliff
presents
a
giant
air
pocket
for
the
entire
economy.
But
there
are
a few ways in which it would affect us seniors in particular.
For example, if you rely on stock or mutual fund dividends to help fund your retirement, you can expect to take a "pay cut," as those dividends, currently taxed
at
maximum
rate
of
15%, will be
taxed
at
ordinary
income
rates,
up
to
about 40%.
Do you have any capital gains on investments you might have made five or ten or twenty years ago? Again, the tax rate would go up on them. The maximum
tax
rate
on
long-term
capital
gains
(investments
held
longer
than
a
year)
will
increase
from
15%
to
20%. Meaning, again, if you plan to cash in some investments to help fund your retirement, you will be forced to take a pay cut.
And if you do own any investments, either in your IRA or elsewhere, the value of those assets will likely go down. In
theory,
the
value
of
an
investment
consists
of
the
after-tax
sum
of
all
future
returns.
If
as
most
experts
predict,
the
economy
suffers
after
going
over
the
fiscal
cliff,
then
those
returns
will
be
lower.
And to
add
insult
to
injury,
those
lower
returns
will
be
taxed
at
a
higher
rate.
It
only
makes
sense
that
the
stock
market,
as
well
as
private
business
investments,
would
deflate
to
a
lower
level.
High-dividend
stocks,
defense
stocks
and
banking
stocks
might
be
the
biggest
losers.
But
even
more
stable
investments
in
health
care, energy
and
agriculture
would
probably
be
a
bad
bet,
since
going
over
the
fiscal
cliff
would leave everyone
black
and
blue.
And then there's your home. No
one
knows
how
the
fiscal
cliff
will
influence
mortgage
rates.
But
with
less
government
spending,
less
employment,
less
after-tax
income,
and
a
less
robust
economy
in
general,
it's
hard
to
see
home
prices
rebounding
in
any
meaningful
way.
In
fact,
the
fiscal
cliff
could
rachet
down
value
of
your
house
yet
again,
as
funds
are
squeezed
out
of
the
housing
market
to
shore
up
the
rest
of
the
economy.
And if all this isn't enough, there are the cutbacks. The government spends a lot of money, and if it spends less, then there will be across-the-board cutbacks to government programs, bringing hardships to beneficiaries as well as lower revenues to the thousands of companies that do business with the government.
More particularly, the fiscal cliff aims to cut
some
$11
billion
out
of
Medicare,
in
part
by
lowering
payments
to
doctors.
This
could
mean individual
patients
will
have
to
pay
the
difference.
Alternatively,
it
could
put
cost
pressures
on
medical
facilities,
forcing
them
to
reduce
staff.
Lower
payments
could
also
lead
doctors
to
limit
the
number
of
Medicare
patients
they
will
see.
The
fiscal
cliff
could
make
it
harder
for
some
people
to
find
a
doctor,
and
could
mean
longer
wait
times
and
lower
quality
of
service
for
those
who
do.
There is arguably one benefit to the fiscal cliff. Social Security. No,
your
benefit
will
not
get
any
higher.
But
the
fiscal
cliff automatically ends the 2%
payroll
tax
"holiday"
enacted under President
Obama
in
2010.
Since
the
payroll
tax
funds
Social
Security,
restoring the
higher
tax
rate will
repair
some
of
the
damage
done
to
the
funding
of
the
program.
But is that worth all the other pain and suffering that will be brought to you by the fiscal cliff? I doubt it.
To be sure, there's no reason why Congress couldn't do both: Reinstate the payroll tax to shore up Social Security and then also make some kind of deal to avoid all those other economic problems. But that would require them to grow up and act like adults. What are the chances of that?
P. S. To see what's currently going on in Congress, to witness all that your representatives are doing on your behalf, to view all the frenetic activity going on in Washington to save the situation, check out the Capitol webcam.
10 comments:
I know this sounds cold and unkind but I say... "let's go over that cliff."
But I know the wrong people will be blamed and so I do not expect that to happen. Dammit!
I think Congress and the White House are both posturing right now. I think we WILL go over the cliff and that's not necessarily a bad thing. The Republicans are never going to play ball here and allow taxes to go up on the uber wealthy, they just won't. So over the cliff we go and the unpaid Bush tax cuts are gone. Then Congress can lower taxes on the lower 98 percent and if the Republicans refuse they'll again be decimated in 2014.
Yeah, I don't think going over the cliff would be so bad. It might be one of the rare opportunities to lower the inflated military part of the budget. Then other essential could be factored back in.
Don't doctors take a pledge to heal people who need healing? How in hell can they justify not taking a Medicare patient, or any other patient?
What happened to all the money? I looked into a "high-yeild" savings account at my credit union. A whole .3% until the account reaches 25,000, when it goes to .4%
And then I saw a commercial for a bank that was so sorry for not being able to give customers a return on their money that they were donating 5% of their profits to community programs this holiday season. Hello??
The part of all this that is overlooked is the irony of Congress and the president trying to undo something they agreed to just last year.
The whole point was a series of steps that no one wanted to have occur, so our brightest minds would figure out a compromise.
Now that Washington is faced with exactly what they designed to never occur everyone seems desperate to rewrite the "rules."
Personally I am sick and tired of never being able to make concrete investment and spending plans because everything is either a last minute patch or a "kick the can down the road" approach. Can't these bozos act like adults, agree on solutions and stick to their decisions?
Apparently not.
I have a question...is there anything at all we can do about this? It is a bit like telling a 5 year old that their plane might crash in the ocean. They will worry but not be able to do anything about it.
If there is something we can do, let me know. Does out social media help? Can we tweet the legislature and tell them how worried we are? Will it do any good?
b+
http://www.retireinstyleblog.com
I've been writing my congressman.
Fix the TAX CODE!!!!! Now is the time since people are ready for just about anything.
I am ready for the cliff...not in a negative way. My understanding is that dividends and capital gains tax will go up ---but only on the people making more than $100,000 off of them. Sounds fair.
I also can see some of the cuts in Medicare...there are some major abuses out there for people who know the loops in the system (think power chairs). I find it amazing that a place that the average senior has a million in the bank has plenty of Medicare paid for power chairs--and yet the place I volunteer at has none!
AS for the military- start with the contractors!!!!! Get rid of most of them. Those are the Rumsfield cronies who are being made rich off of our troops!
I'm ready for the fall. It will be worth a spurt of unknown IF it really gets fixed (doubtful--- but there is always hope.)
I feel the frustration, but I think going over the cliff will be cutting off our nose to spite our face. And while I agree there isn't a whole lot we can do, it certainly can't hurt to talk about it and, yes, write your congressperson.
Raising taxes only on dividends and capital gains of over $100,000 sounds fair and reasonable to me, to tax the rich but protect retirees -- but unfortunately for us, the fiscal cliff affects everyone. The $100K limit would be a compromise that would have to be made.
And Olga . . . I feel your pain!
We met with our financial planner today. One of the topics was the fiscal cliff. She said it might not be much of an effect, but it could be more serious. Wanted to make sure we have enough liquidity for a couple of years without having to tap investments (we're lucky to have pensions). She expects the market to come roaring back once the current foolishness passes.
Having studied this problem for a long time, I am convinced (almost) that falling off the cliff would not be a huge problem.
1.Reinstating the payroll tax would help Social Security recover a bit;
2.Congress and the president could lower taxes next year if the expiration of the 'Bush' tax cuts occurs and we could call them the Obama tax cuts which would make the Dems look like tax heroes;
3.Various departments of government would be forced to examine how they spend money.
I still maintain the Bowles-Simpson plan is the way to go.
Washington Post has a piece on the impending fiscal cliff today (12/2).
Dianne
As for Oliver Stone -- he ain't no historian.
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